justOralsTho
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- You will probably have to PCT anyways
- Might experience low test sides as cycle goes on
- Not as many gainz as if u include test
- real men inject or something
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Respect ur liver bro… shoot your gear
Also oral test is going to be a staple it an oral only cycle
Respect ur liver bro… shoot your gear
Also oral test is going to be a staple it an oral only cycle
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Respect ur liver bro… shoot your gear
Also oral test is going to be a staple it an oral only cycle
Pin all the mtren!
you’ve no idea what you are doing but my experience with gymbros >35 year old is that they aren’t exactly ‘big on reading’. you can acquire knowledge, you know, lol.On occasion you’ll run into someone like me who saw GREAT gains on just dbol. I didn’t want to go on Test at first until I saw the body changes from Dbol. I put on a good solid 10-14 pounds, far better appetite and better overall feeling especially the first time I used it, wow I felt like superman on dbol. That only happened the first week.
Still, oral only is possible but yea I went on a tiny PCT 2 weeks maybe… if that. but then decided to inject TRT levels to maintain my gains. So I started at 200mg Pharma grade cyp every 7 days. My buddy gave it to me and he had Hunters Test as well. At 44 I’ve never looked back. I’m almost 46…will be in July if I last that long. You never know, lol.
If you’re not a female, then I don’t get why you feel the need to make every single experienced user on this forum disrespect you in one post.I’m doing an anavar only cycle btw
The dosing protocol I suggested would put you in the same range as you are in naturally. It isn’t comparable to abuse at that point.not scared of pinning, have a RN girl that will teach me how to pin/do my pins for me if I want.
there are long-term sides to test abuse even when you PCT properly, and I feel like going with what I consider the safest anabolic (anavar) first feels like the safest way to go.
This shit is a marathon, if everything goes well I can add a test base next cycle.
I think I will buy some test prop anyways just in case low test sides fuck me up.
Well… I had put on such good size I didn’t want to lose it. I felt like fuck it, I’m 45 why not just go on TRT.Why right to TRT after a PCT?
Anavar is the arguably the least toxic oral for your liver. It’s your lipids (cholesterol) that it hits, and insanely hard (these impact your heart/arteries in simple terms). Far more than most orals and light years more than a TRT dose of test ever could/would. Gyno isn’t a health marker, is only caused by user error, and the need for TRT isn’t impacted by the health markers we are referring to. You’re confusing health markers with side effects. Don’t want to even risk gyno? Simply take nolva/ralox from the beginning and there is no possibility of you getting it (these drugs block the receptors). You’re parroting the nonsense you’ve Googled and it’s painfully obvious. Stop that man.“Additionally, Anavar is worse for you than testosterone is and an Anavar only cycle is going to leave your health markers worse off than a basic testosterone cycle would.”
Uh, maybe for your liver? Testosterone can have some severely debilitating lifelong side effects, and the rate of gyno surgery in roid communities when people speak candidly is lulzy. Also the amount of people on perma TRT is an enormous red flag, for me at least. Especially when combined with long-term sides even for those that PCT properly.
Can you link me to some literature that backs up a 40-50mg/day for 4-6weeks of Anavar leaves you more fucked than a standard 12wk test cycle? I really would appreciate the knowledge bomb!
"Finally, citing the ‘long term sides’ as your reason for not using it now and then saying you’ll just use it next run directly contradict one another. Those long term risks/sides don’t change between now and your next cycle, they’re still going to be there. It would be wise for you to stop going off of what ‘feels safer’ and actually go off of what …is safer. "
You’re right, that won’t change. But, when compared to the possible sides of people that respond poorly - balding, mood swings, gyno, full shutdown, lactation, bloat, acne, abscesses, etc. it feels like a 40-50mg/d anavar cycle with cardio and liver support is the way to go. The sides list on most sites I’ve checked are 2-3x as long for test than for oxandrolone, although these are for non-supraphysiological doses. (On top of the long-term sides for test).
I do like your suggestion and will research it!