Chinese ban

[jstarks11]

Theglasscastle4" pid='75687' dateline='1574724723:

Steroids are illegal in USA yet we’ve been using them for decades. Laws ain’t changing shit

YES!!! ^^^^ What he said!!! Laws will not change shit!!! If China wants to play stupid then they can chop their own dicks off!!! China has been dominating this game for a while. And because of this India has been laying in the shadows because competition is/was too costly. They simply could not compete. Now, if things change enough with this purported ban and China’s abilities to get the product to us, all this will do is open up the market to places like India which will now be less competitive to them and others and sure the price will go up some, but the avenues will also open up. India CAN provide a good product. Their hormones are not any different than chinas. They simply could not make it cost effective to compete with China. Now that China wants to get on the American train and start banning this and that and acting like the dumbasses that is what caused Americans to seek places like China out in the first place for such goods that America has long since banned… Well then, another place will step up to fill their DUMBASS shoes!!!
You see, once upon a time, here in our own country we could get the basics for this game right here in our own country and spend our money with OURSELVES and help OURSELVES flourish physically and financially. Then comes bans and ACTS and this and that, so what do we do??? STOP what we are doing??? FUCK NO, we simply find it elsewhere and spend money making someone else besides ourselves rich. However, in these infinately wise political places we live where idiots want to CONTROL everything they don’t stop or control they simply force us to improvise.
So if China wants to play, they just opened up the door to allow ALOT more competitive countries to enter the game. India I would say would be the first in line.
Sure, at first, (because they have not been doing this like China has) they will SUCK at it. As did China 20 years ago. Hell, even 10 years ago China didn’t have it down like they now do… But India will get better and better and their products will get purer and more on point as competition grows.
However, I believe China will still be producing and the people who are in the KNOW will still be providing and life will go on. May be a slight price increase is all I see coming.
IMHO

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Dexter" pid='75714' dateline='1574744356:

Trump made a pledge to Americans that he would end the Fent and Opiod crisis in America. It’s election time and he hasn’t accomplished jack sh**. So it’s time to get tough and show the world who’s boss.

So this works two ways. Either trump is impeached which I think would be funny. Or he loses a reelection or he wins and coasts for the next four years doing nothing again.

I don’t see this as a long term problem.

The only problem would be China, if for some reason they felt it their duty to stop the production of AAS and send these lab workers to a gulag than that would be a serious problem. I don’t know enough about China to see this happening, but it could if China is pressed by Trump and his backwards trade policies.

Production could transfer to another part of the world, but quality would probably suffer and there could possibly be a period where you’re taking a gamble injecting anything from this sort of situation.

So here’s my solution.

I recently ordered enough AAS and ancillary raws to last me 10 years. I tripled bagged everything in 7mil mylar, removed the oxygen and filled it with inert gas, placed in canning jars with silicon to absorb any moisture and put them in a temperature controlled vault away from my home of which only I know the location. Cost me a penny and a lot of work to weigh out and pack all this stuff in doses that i would use each year, but it was worth it.

I no longer have to worry about what this buffoon of a president we currently have is gonna do next.

Sadly Americans aren’t anywhere smart enough to elect a libertarian for president, seems odd for a country that goes on and on about freedom and yet elects people that want to take even more of it away year after year.

LOL!!! GOOD SHIT!!! Someone else who recognizes that the proclamation of freedom in this shithole is ALLLLL TALK!!! China is suppose to be oppressive and semi communist etc etc yet they lasted longer than we did with their freedoms. They are JUST now starting to come down on hormones… LOL, America came down on them WAAAAAAAAY!!! BACK!!! This place was/is less free in reality than communist and totalitarian governments…

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Pharmahgh" pid='75768' dateline='1574799971:

09370z" pid='75751' dateline='1574789096:

I’ve been hearing mixed things about this ban, but admittedly I am a bit nervous. Do you guys really think this is going to affect us?

I think a lot of people are jumping the gun . If you read the article close it mostly refers to stimulants.

I also believe sources are sending out emails to use this time as a ploy to capitalize on peoples fear inn the hopes everyone will but a ton of stuff at once. dont forget this is not coming from the companies them selves, its not posted on there websites, its coming from reps who work on commission and are sending mass emails to there customers or potential customers.

If there is some truth to it, they will leave a loophole and those companies may just have to move to another province to manufacture. steroids have been on the banned list for a while now. They are illegal in hong kong and you know how many packages go through hong kong. I wouldnt worry too much about it

Hong Kong is in essence a different country than China. And steroids are not on the banned list in China. What goes through Hong Kong “shipment” wise would not have anything to do with the legalities of where the shipment originated from. Only the shipment origin point and destination point matters when exporting/importing goods. However, I believe you are correct that things will not change much. Reason I say this is because if you look at any of the REPUTABLE raw suppliers or RESELLERS. they are NOT sending mass emails out trying to dupe people into LARGE, hurry up and get it while you can, jargon. I deal with ALOT of raw suppliers and the only one’s that are sending out these mass emails are the one’s with shaky product to begin with. But the one’s that have LEGIT Primo and Var and Halo and who have ALLLLL Around great product and are deeply SEATED in this game… I have not gotten ONE email or wickr text from any of them. Only the companies that have the basics like Test E and shit but their Var is bs and primo is bs, You know those companies!!! The one’s who cut shit and sneak and always have BS to them!!! Those are the only one’s that are making a deal out of this.
The STAPLE raw suppliers are just business as usual… Why? Cause they are not worried. And if they are not worried, neither am I!

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Dexter" pid='75770' dateline='1574800385:

09370z" pid='75751' dateline='1574789096:

I’ve been hearing mixed things about this ban, but admittedly I am a bit nervous. Do you guys really think this is going to affect us?

Anything can affect us in the short term.

China:

1. Depends on their masses being employed, this is how you control a population, a people with free time on their hands is trouble for the government…just like in America. If Trump threatens to shut down their trade in anyway he can cause Xi to crack down on whatever Trump desires. Trump said he wanted to crack down on Fent and Opiods, but the question is why are they f’in with us in the AAS community, because our government is sadistic and controlling.
2. China can control access to the chemicals necessary to manufacture AAS, actually China can do anything they want. Wasn’t that long ago they used to have public executions blowing peoples brains out for something as petty stealing a gallon of gas. 99% conviction rates in their courts, would make anyone scared, then again America has like 90% conviction rates so we aren’t that much better when it comes to the war on drugs.
3. If it did take effect and the supply chain was interrupted then we’d have a period where our AAS quality control would suffer. The Chinese people have learned by making mistakes, they wanted business and improved their product to a point it’s pretty damn good considering it’s an illegal product in most of the western world. So who manufactures this, who passes on knowledge so someone else can do it and do it right. There’s not many places left that our government can’t control. I mean you could start up manufacturing in Somalia, anywhere that a government isn’t swayed by our government, which is hard to find.

So start stocking up at least a year supply, better yet go for 3-5 year stash, because you never know what trumpy might do to prove his pecker can still get hard.

http://justicedenied.org/wordpress/archives/3190

I think you need to take a look at this ^^^ above. Wiki is aligned (I believe) with our government and posts as much BS as they do truth!!! Our conviction rate is AS BAD as Chinas!!!
PROOF is this!!! There are MORE people incarcerated in our country than in Chinas currently. And that is NOT because they KILLLLLLL everyone there!!! That hasn’t happened there for a long time!!! They have LESS incarcerated and SEVERAL times as many people as we do!!! The math is the math.

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DonaldPump" pid='75797' dateline='1574812536:

LOL at stocking up for 3-5 years. You guys are getting really paranoid here. The steroid market is absolutely huge. Not just bodybuilders and gym rats, but nearly every professional sport player as well. Do you really think there is ANY chance that we are not going to be able to get gear? Come on now. Demand dictates distribution, not laws. Heroin, benzos, other rec drugs are ALL on the banned substance list and has been for many years and they still get to the US in quantities that are a “cause for concern”. China will say whatever to appease Trump. Hell, they might even actually “crack down” for a few months. But one way or another things will go back to how they have always been and juice heads will stay jacked and happy. Don’t freak out into spending your life savings stocking up for the gear apocalypse

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Just to add to that, every supplier I’ve talked to is not even slightly concerned so I don’t see why we should be

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Donald PUMP!!! For president!!! This man is correct!!! And just the type president we need. Let me ask you this Mr.Pump… Did you inhale??? lmao

 

[Dexter]

What happened to the united states will happen to china much quicker. It’s much easier to imitate than innovate. Globalism is also a problem, if China does ban and punish those that make our raws, India might make them, but than the US will force them to stop and the whole process goes on and on. There are no countries far removed from the control of the United States, except maybe some of the middle eastern countries like Iran, which might not be such a bad place to manufacture.

As for the problems with our legal system, that really started in the early 70’s, since than the incarceration rate has jumped almost 700%. The solution to every problem is incarceration, because despite what some claim, it’s a cheap method of social control. It costs much more money for basically a European style welfare state that takes care of your basic needs. America in a sense doesn’t like that, they prefer punitive punishments, they relish the biblical idea of revenge “eye for an eye” and can’t see past the silliness of one dimensional or shallow thinking.

Basically America saw what was happening in the 50’s and 60’s with drugs and they freaked out, the heroin problems in Harlem(black people on drugs, black liberation movements as well, gotta stick those black people in prison), they couldn’t dream of ways other than sticking them in prison, it was like their minds only thought about one path to fix this issue. And here we are today where everything has been scheduled and your prison sentence has been decided, there is no discretion in this matter, it’s simply by the book, stand before a man in a robe that follows the law like it were a religious text, gives you a small lecture from his pulpit and sends you to your cage for X number of years even if you are absolutely no threat to anyone. Then give you a record for the rest of your life so your recidivism is almost guaranteed.

Thus you have the mass incarceration system the United States invented and will export to the world. Because America is really only good a two things, dropping bombs on people, and beating the shit out of them and tossing them in a cage like an animal.

 

[jstarks11]

meafp" pid='75849' dateline='1574865166:

there’s “big pharma is god” view held by bought of legislators.

It’s all about $$$ - this is the exact same reason new cars have to be sold through dealerships and not direct to consumers. Same reason internet in the US costs multiples of what it does in other countries (in cities - I can understand a higher cost in rural areas). These are government sponsored monopolies - big donors who were able to get laws passed that protect their business models.

But disruption is coming. Tesla effectively broke the dealership model. T-Mobile is rolling out LTE home internet. Streaming services are becoming more popular than cable. Slowly, people are starting to order drugs internationally (legally).

I agree with everyone on this thread - sarms, aas, and ped’s don’t hurt or affect anyone but the user. Isn’t it great that what we do is illegal, and being made harder to obtain, while marijuana is accepted. Funny, I never heard of someone killing anyone in a car accident because they were under the influence of test…

Well, except when the girls drive by and get distracted by the gun show

So many good posts in this thread!!! You guys mostly all are saying good shit!!! I used to believe (like George Washington type shit) that we could change this BS country with revolution and KICK ASS. I don’t believe that anymore. Us guys who think and believe like most of us here are dying breeds.
Under the influence of Test… LOL, man it’s crazy cause it sounds crazy but the real crazy is that you’re RIGHT!!! Unless there is a REAL victim, there is no crime!!! TOOOOO many people are going to court these days in this country and being convicted of crimes in a court of law and there will be NOT ONE person in that courtroom except for court workers and the defendant!!! Just go visit a federal court hearing/trial and watch. Out of 10 there will be one that has someone showing up to the dates to point the finger at a person and say “Yes, this person affected me this or that way and I want him prosecuted” and that, THAT is a real victim!!! Someone whom you have disturbed or harmed in a way that excites them to seek revenge or justice against you. And in cases where there is NOT that victim (whether it is a business or a person etc) Then I truely DONT believe there is a crime!!!
AAS is NOT a crime. Providing people AAS is NOT a crime. Provide someone with BS AAS or unprofessional services that kill someone or hurt them etc… THEN we have a crime and it is STILL not AAS. It is Murder, or Manslaughter, or Assault (IE dirty gear causing someone infection that necessitates amputation of body parts) BUT just to FORCE everyone to shut down and DONT do this and DONT do that cause there is a POTENTIAL of risk for this or that involved is to me UN AMERICAN!!! you cannot SAVE everyone, you cannot PROTECT everyone less you give up your FREEDOMS to gain that protection and savior!!!
LIVE AND LET LIVE and respect the game!!! People will die! Heads will roll, Accidents will happen, but we will be FREE!!! That is the price of freedom!!! Yes unrestriction would cause more accidents and a little fuck up here and there, and we address those issues INDIVIDUALLY and on CASE BY CASE basis!!! We don’t say “Oh well there was this ONE guy who killed his whole family, who happened to be on steroids… But also depression meds too, OH and he was also under the influence of Illicit drugs as well… BUT since he was on steroids… We will ban those too and smear the name of those compounds…”
BULLSHIT, and we all know it!!!
This ban shit is a joke in my opinion. And this CONTROLLING force we live under that reaches out to oppress EVERYONE within it’s grasp is FOUL and TAINTED!!!

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Dexter" pid='75869' dateline='1574875859:

meafp" pid='75849' dateline='1574865166:

I agree with everyone on this thread - sarms, aas, and ped’s don’t hurt or affect anyone but the user. Isn’t it great that what we do is illegal, and being made harder to obtain, while marijuana is accepted. Funny, I never heard of someone killing anyone in a car accident because they were under the influence of test…

Well, except when the girls drive by and get distracted by the gun show

Trump is basically using drugs that supposedly come from China as a way of getting people, in this country, to okay the huge hit they’re taking due to his retarded trade policies.

Leaders do this all the time. It’s a bait and switch.

Like a Republican that tells you abortion is evil, yet turns around and wants to bomb the world into oblivion with war or wants the death penalty for drug dealers(something Trump is on record saying.

The real problem is that we have an extremely low IQ buffoon in charge of the country, he possess a 30 word vocabulary…great, perfect, tremendous, Huuuge, big league, loser, moron, bad, amazing, out of control…ect. He mixes these words up to make sentences of complete nonsense. We are dealing with a leader that has never sat down and read a book cover to cover, he has no attention span whatsoever. SNL mentioned that they thought he was functionally illiterate when he appeared on their show and couldn’t read the cue cards.

This is a man that is worried about opoids and fent killing people, but has rode bareback with porn stars, prostitutes, playboy bunnies and probably his daughter Ivanka.

China is holding press conferences and discussing Trumps demands to stop the importation of these naughty drugs.

AAS community hasn’t done anything wrong, McDonalds is responsible for killing more people in one month than the entire history of AAS starting from the 50’s.

At the end of the day trump is coming up on the election cycle, it’s that time of year where he has to unzip his pants, whip it out and wave it around to mesmerize a gullible public. Trump knows nothing about public policy, everything he knows and holds dear hangs between his legs, not his ears.

WOW!!! Very impressive!!! I like everything you have said here! Trump is in fact an idiot!! Isn’t it ironic that some of the most wealthy people and publicly accepted, famous, etc people are STUPID as fuck??? WOW!!

 

[Dexter]

Ultimately America spends a lot of money on LE, they have militarized it for the war against drugs. They don’t want it sitting idle because they could lose funding.

Swat teams used to be few and far between 25 years ago, now they are all over the place. The Military has a much better understanding of escalating force and restraining themselves from going overboard. Our LE isn’t trained for this, they are handed equipment produced by military contractors and they suddenly think they’re rambo serving a warrant to an 89 year old women who they shoot a few times in the chest, flip her over and immediately handcuff her and let her bleed out to die.(true story)

These people we call LE have become much bigger thieves and criminals than our actual thieves, they steal more money and assets than any criminals could hope to steal. People are now more scared of LE than they are of criminals…I know I am.

We’ve funded these huge programs for cops and they don’t have anything to do, so instead of just having one cop deliver a warrant in a peaceful way, they show up in a 20,000 pound armored vehicle and men pour out and surround the guy inside watching the “price is right” while eating popcorn, they kick in the door as the man reaches for his remote they blow his brains out, his offense, failure to show up to pay a “not wearing a seatbelt fine”.

Just a couple of days ago, two robbers seize a UPS truck with the driver inside, the cops chase the robbers, fill the truck up full of holes killing the driver and a bystander. The police cheif then comes on tv and reminds the public that cops are heros and you should never question their low IQ’s.

This is what you have in America now. I’m getting tired of being told that we’re free, this is 110% pure bullshit, we have 40,000 new laws and regulations that are passed in this country every year, if you get caught jaywalking they can now tack on 30 other offenses and send you to prison for the rest of your life. You can’t even walk out your door without a cop driving by giving you the evil eye.

 

[jstarks11]

Dexter" pid='75986' dateline='1575006509:

Lalez22" pid='75927' dateline='1574945936:

Ok so tiL from this thread that Liberals use AAS, learn something new everyday lol.

And btw, Trump is like 72 and sleeps like 4 hours a night, working, drilling hotties, traveling, talking shit, golfing…you know his Dr’s are injecting him with Chinas finest bruh

I’m not a liberal or conservative. I’d consider accepting a libertarian as long as they don’t bring up any of that God bullsh*t.

Trump fully supports the war on drugs, he fully supports search and seizure of assets. He’s got a hard-on for cops and soldiers, worships them and turns them into hero’s. The militarizing of our police force is something that needs to be done away with, cops should only be seen on our streets when we call them, otherwise they should sit in their stations minding their own business.

Liberals have come up with some of the worst drug laws that have stuck hundreds of thousands of people in prison for victimless crimes. Conservatives love to let the cops run all over our citizens. Either way establishment politics have created so many laws that any of us could spend the rest of our lives in prison on any given day.

You are SOOOOO right. I personally know people that are in federal prison with LIFE sentences for WEED!!! That is NOT an exaggeration. LITERALLY, for weed. Albeit that he was involved on a conspiracy that had a level somewhere in the 100’s of tons of weed. And Albeit after 30 years incarcerated on it he received a sentence reduction and goes home in like months now. He was locked away in 1993 for weed and given LIFE cause he would not lay it down and went to trial so they said “we’ll show you”.
https://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-8th-circuit/1392262.html
If you read this link I’ve put in here, look closely, yes it says that a conspiracy with Meth started but they NEVER actually charged this man with a conspiracy to possess and distribute meth!! So that is hearsay!!! He was charged ONLY with conspiracy to possess and distribute WEEEEEEED!!! ONLY!!! And if you look there at the like 3rd or 4th paragraph, he recieved a LIFE SENTENCE!!! How the FUCK could ANYONE EVER receive a LIFE sentence for WEED??? That is UNAMERICAN. So, now that weed is being looked at lightly and is becoming legal on state level, after almost 30 years incarcerated, they granted him an appeal and are letting him go? Man, we wonder why people go insane in Luby’s or Las Vegas, or Orlando, San Bernadino etc… When someone has to be given a life sentence for weed only and fight for almost 30 years in prison to get that monkey off their back… It makes a society go nuts man!!!

 

[Dexter]

jstarks11" pid='76435' dateline='1575822688:

WOW!!! Very impressive!!! I like everything you have said here! Trump is in fact an idiot!! Isn’t it ironic that some of the most wealthy people and publicly accepted, famous, etc people are STUPID as fuck??? WOW!!

The thing about Trump and company is that they deflect every criticism of this buffoon with “The economy is going great” “it’s the best its been since men landed on the moon”…that’s my new favorite line.

The truth is 70% of people in America hate their jobs, they’re on loads of antidepressants just so they can crawl out of bed and subject themselves to another day of meaningless humiliation doing things that serve no purpose other than to control the masses by diverting attention to that next shiny purchase their saving up for that will provide them with a ten minute squirt of dopamine.

The bottom line is we are tools for this government, we go to work, we pay taxes and we die. Flag, bible, and little children are what your politicians push, if you question any of this you are an unpatriotic pile of shit.

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jstarks11" pid='76438' dateline='1575824262:

How the FUCK could ANYONE EVER receive a LIFE sentence for WEED??? That is UNAMERICAN. So, now that weed is being looked at lightly and is becoming legal on state level, after almost 30 years incarcerated, they granted him an appeal and are letting him go? Man, we wonder why people go insane in Luby’s or Las Vegas, or Orlando, San Bernadino etc… When someone has to be given a life sentence for weed only and fight for almost 30 years in prison to get that monkey off their back… It makes a society go nuts man!!!

Making a bust is a great way to make it look like you’re doing something. It’s the path to promotion if you’re lucky enough to catch someone in the act.

Like I mentioned, we should never see cops out on the street unless you call for their help(like firemen) and only then can they respond to that specific call and once done they must go back to their station and mind their own business, they can’t take any detours, and stop anyone along the way. Warrants can only be served after being signed off by a committee of citizens that hate LE, I personally recommend Satanists as they are free thinkers and know bullshit when they see it.

 

[jstarks11]

Dexter" pid='76055' dateline='1575117910:

Lalez22" pid='76050' dateline='1575114758:

Yea man I get it, however I certainly do vote Republican only because they aren’t out here saying they want to repeal the 2nd Amendment, .223 Semi-Auto Rifles, Glocks, Sigs, SA’s, etc… There are over 100,000,000 gun owners and growing in the USA…the 2nd Amendment is there to protect the 1st Amendment, period, that is what it is designed to do. Anyone spouting off against the owning and legal carrying of guns in the USA just does not understand this country’s founding concept.

Btw, I agree with you, cops are out of control, all the more reason for private citizens to be armed.

“The United States was founded on guns, they are there to protect you from the police” - Ice-T

BTW my breaking point is if they ban Cialis Raws lol

The 2nd amendment is important. However the 4th amendment is even more important imo.

The ability for you to be searched for just about any reason once you’re out on the street is a huge problem. The conservative courts have made it their mission to allow cops to steam roll over your rights and allow cops, at their discretion to make up whatever reason they want to fulfill reasonable suspicion and or probable cause, and besides cops are shooting citizens left and right for doing nothing more than reaching for their license and registration. They have become a wolf pack of thugs that are taught that we are the enemy and we must die so they can go home and eat dinner with their fat wives every night, all the 2nd amendment in the world won’t save you from that, they’ll blow your a** away even if you are armed to the teeth.

Everyone trumpets on and on about how being a cop is so dangerous, but only about 50-60 die every year, that’s nothing in terms of workplace occupational safety, you’re far more likely to get killed being a rancher and yet no one calls a rancher a hero for providing us with a nice t-bone steak, which is far more beneficial to me then a bunch of cops trampling on my rights to be left alone.

Gun rights count when you have an army of citizens well armed, but the individual will quickly be cut down if they think the 2nd amendment will accomplish jack squat.

No self respecting AAS user should be voting for anything but a stop to the war on drugs…that’s libertarian. Never trust Rep or Dems, they’re both one in the same, both big government, both prison and military industrial complex, they just wear different clown suits.

This is your 2nd amendment.

Here is what I have to say. And maybe I am just undereducated on politics. But FUCK EM ALLLLLL!!! They are ALL LE as far as I’m concerned. When this country was founded it was founded by criminals so-to-speak. I myself do not consider them criminals but they were TREASONISTS!!! They were from BRITAIN!!! British colonists. So they rebelled against their king and BUCKED the system which would be called and considered a criminal in today’s language. And that is what I am. A Rebel. I vote rebel. Those guys were just that… guys. They weren’t politicians etc… They started as just guys. Little military experience maybe but they weren’t ingenious thugs and crooks like this leadership we currently live under. They didn’t have an agenda to demise and control. They were fed up m-f’ers like I see and hear right here on this board that were wanting to DO something and CHANGE something to better live and carry out happy lives. Sure, it got twisted early on. But I don’t believe the true twist came about until the 1900’s standard oil, etc…
Cops are for sure out of control in this country… I get so sick and tired EVERYWHERE I go of hearing “Oh you better put your seatbelt on. These cops are bad up ahead” “You better be careful, you get caught with that vial without a prescription you could go to prison” “you need to this, and you should that” Man, how did it get to this?

 

[Dexter]

jstarks11" pid='76442' dateline='1575825420:

They are ALL LE as far as I’m concerned. When this country was founded it was founded by criminals so-to-speak. I myself do not consider them criminals but they were TREASONISTS!!! They were from BRITAIN!!! British colonists. So they rebelled against their king and BUCKED the system which would be called and considered a criminal in today’s language. And that is what I am. A Rebel.

The first ship to sail to the Americas was indeed a ship full of criminals. Many of the first white people that landed on these shores were given the choice, either set sail for a new land, or the gallows.

Most people have this silly idea of the pilgrims who were pious and pure and only love their little jesus. That’s 100% bullshit, they were drunks and criminals, they showed up to these shores and stepped their first step on this land completely shit faced drunk. Read the history, it’s all there, they didn’t even work, they spent their time looking for gold and ended up starving so they stole the natives food reserves and started off wars with the Indians and you wonder why the natives hate the white man.

It’s quite comical when you read the true history of this country, it’s a ghastly tale of men that were in it for themselves. In many ways this country was about freedom, the people did question their masters, but as the population grew and the government grew along with it, we get what we have today, a nanny state that looks upon us as property.

 

[jstarks11]

Bigboost89" pid='76068' dateline='1575134722:

@“Dexter” We’ve had an exchange before, you certainly aren’t a liberal lol I enjoy your dialogue

I’m curious toward this answer though, as it’s the pivotal foundational issue for most any arguement regarding governance, but who or what gives us our ‘rights’?

WE GIVE US OUR RIGHTS!!!
LIVE AND LET LIVE.
When it directly affects you HANDLE IT!!! It sounds like a lawless state and a unorganized crazy world to think of it that way but that is BS!!! THINK BROS!!! We came from that and we made it here so it MUST have worked!!!
10,000 years ago we humans were here, just like now, doing this living thing. But there were no LIBRARIES of books with 1000’s and 1000’s of pages of laws to govern us.

WE JUST DID IT!!!
Oh, you say “Yeah, but bro, back then we did not have insurance and life expectancy was short BLA BLA BLA!!!” Maybe that is the problem. Everyone’s view that they deserve this adn that and this and those!!! Get it or have it taken. Survival of the fittest, live and let live, only the strong survive and IT WORKED!!! We are here and we did not kill each other off!!! Because people in essence are inherently GOOD man!!! We will make it without REGULATION, without RULES. Rules to the extent of THIS I mean.
Obviously we need not be raping women, molesting children, senselessly murdering, fucking with elderly, and a few serious rules. But aside from that man, ALLLLLLL the other NONSENSE is simply CONTROL!!!
In the 1700’s people think “that was a lawless and crazy time” people calling you out to a dual in the fucking street, showdown at the okay corral type shit. But was that lawlessness or the FREEEDOM that you SCREAM for??? Think about it, we must have been okay and done shit right cause we made it here!!! We are still going!!! Only if you think about it, back in those days, what happens when a child tells his dad, mom, uncle “I hate you”, “shut up”, “I wish you weren’t my mother” etc etc??? Well you’re right, they got their ASSSSSSSES handed to them and rightfully so!!! But I digress, because BACK THEN that did not happen!!! Why cause back then and further back, WE AS HUMANS had RESPECT!!! And this BS age where we complain day to day about the CONTROL and COPS and this and that is a day with kids telling their parents they wish they were dead and I hate you and shut up and I’ll have you arrested etc because there is NO respect. Fuck an insurance policy and a life expectancy and all that give me REAL FREEDOM and REAL RESPECT!!!

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Dexter" pid='76106' dateline='1575173125:

Bigboost89" pid='76068' dateline='1575134722:

@“Dexter” We’ve had an exchange before, you certainly aren’t a liberal lol I enjoy your dialogue

I’m curious toward this answer though, as it’s the pivotal foundational issue for most any arguement regarding governance, but who or what gives us our ‘rights’?

If you look to someone to give you rights, those rights can be revoked at any time by that same person.

I don’t think it’s wise to give someone or something the power to grant you privileges.

For me it’s simple, if you have done something that is considered a crime, but it’s a victimless crime, then you have done nothing worthy of punishment.

Any society can create laws that outlaw murder, rape, assault, theft or damage to property that doesn’t belong to them. Restitution, prison or even execution can be carried out for these crimes. These laws could fit on a 3x5 postcard and would be easy to remember…basically keep your hands to yourself and don’t touch anyone unless they give you permission, that goes for cops as well.

The problem is when you have armies of lawyers and legislators that have nothing better to do then outlaw everything, to make everything you do a crime, to change the laws as they see fit to stick even more people in prison.

You have to accept a certain amount of chaos and danger in life, if you eliminate it all you end up in a police state, like we have now.

So no I don’t think you need to appeal to a higher power or to a man in a robe to give you rights, you keep it simple and you stick to that simplicity even when things go wrong, because the alternative is even more scary.

HOLY SHIT you are a genius!!! Is this an AAS forum or a Revolutionary Militia Board??? WOW!!! this man is a real m-f’er ^^^^^^^ If there is NO victim there is NO punishment!!! Yes I believe in rules of sorts. BASIC rules. And mostly they revolve around there HAVING to be a REAL victim in any sort of CRIME!!! If your victim is the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA then either you’re one tough sonofabitch that it takes the WHOLE of a government to go against you or it’s pure and simple BS!!! NO nobody needs to appeal to a higher power for rights etc unless you are a fucking child. And elderly people should be protected because they earned that respect by making it to that age.
God damn this bro is SMART!!! Yes, even if there is some chaos, spells like that last only long enough that the problem works itself out and life moves on. To create laws and restriction so that people DONT hash it out in the streets to determine what is or isn’t is to destroy and take away the very freedoms we FOUGHT IN THOSE STREETS TO GET!!! A level of chaos (that doesn’t last forever) has to be reached for everyone to learn RESPECT!!! And how to obtain things ON YOUR OWN, FOR YOURSELF!!! This is what creates a man and breeds respect!!!
Why today is it that more and more 30 and 40 year old people are still living back at home with mommy and daddy than in the 1700 and 1800’s??? Because people don’t have respect and know how to STEP UP and DO IT YOURSELF!!!

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Dexter" pid='76161' dateline='1575558662:

RavageStryker" pid='76122' dateline='1575210698:

actually he has done something about the opioid crisis. my ex-wife was getting tons of oxys and whatever else she was doing. now her pills are regulated to only a certain amount per month. and walmart has also regulated those pills as well. so yes, something has been done.

Honestly that’s great for your wife. However the war on drugs must stop. A women on opiods isn’t my concern.

Taking people and putting them in cages for years, giving them a record that follows them for life. That to me is a much bigger problem.

I’m not a leftist, I’m for extremely small government, basically just someone to deal with murderers, rapists, assaults, theft or damage to property that doesn’t belong to the perp.

That’s it, we don’t want legislators trying to save us, if your ex-wife od’s and dies, that’s far less harm to society than putting people in prison. I know that’s harsh, but that’s reality.

Lets put it this way, if drug laws worked, then wouldn’t we have fixed the problem by now. It was Nixon back in the early 70’s that declared this war, all it’s done is destroy peoples lives by entering them into a corrupt criminal justice system.

Tobacco kills 400K+, alcohol kills 150K+. No matter where we see drug laws, even in Saudi Arabia where they drag people out into a public square and lop their head off, they still have to drag some poor sap out in the square every year, year after year to do the same thing…obviously even this doesn’t work.

The bottom line is, people like drugs, all sorts of drugs. Make them legal and those that were gonna do them anyway at least won’t go to prison which is a crime against humanity.

As for Trump, he is the absolute worst as far as us getting AAS to be legal one day. The truth is Bernie Sanders is the only mainstream candidate that has discussed no prison for people that use drugs…that’s the only guy I’ve seen discuss this, everyone else is all about locking people up both conservatives and liberals.

Of course libertarians are against the war on drugs, but there just aren’t enough free thinkers in this country to question the police state we live in, so we are stuck with this insane two party system.

YES!!! IF drug laws and wars would/could work then I’m sure after 40 plus years of it that it would have. It is NOT a real war. It is a money racket!!! THINK!!! Why did we REALLY go to afghanistan? Because Bin Laden blew up the WTC??? REALLY??? Without starting a conspiracy theory campaign here, JUST LIKE IRAQ and the phantom weapons of mass destruction that never existed only to CONTROL that country and their domination of oil in the area so that we now can enjoy the better prices of gas we finally can now that after 20 years we finally got total control there, but now what are we TRUELY seeing as the result of doing the SAME in Afghanistan??? OPIODS!!! YES, thats right… What came about after we FINALLY got total control of Afghanistan??? OPIOD CRISIS!!! What is Afghanistans cash crop? What are they known for? You got it, only the best poppies in the world!!! THINK!!!
Far fetched??? Okay, what about the 70’s and 80’s CONFIRMED in declassified read it anywhere you want to documents that it is a fact our government entered into columbia and exported cocaine into the US themselves for YEARS!!! CONFIRMED!!! and one day, when you are old and dying you will see that SAME confirmation surface about what REALLY happened behind the scenes in Afghanistan!!! Power, CONTROL, Money… That is what the WAR on drugs is. It is not for the benefit of a better people and society, it is to produce wealth that provides control that a George Washington type cannot undo again!!!

 

[Dexter]

jstarks11" pid='76447' dateline='1575826171:

WE GIVE US OUR RIGHTS!!!
LIVE AND LET LIVE.

I’ve mentioned in the past that I agree fundamentally with anarchist ways of thinking. Libertarian is a compromise, but to me it’s watered down and a slippery slope back to what we have today which is legislators doing the only thing they know, adding more laws and regulations. Libertarians would allow states to decide, but how is it that a state is any better off then the federal government, they aren’t. So this is the problem. Lots of states all across the country would have bumpkins in charge of peoples fate. We all liked Ron Paul, but there’s a disconnect with him when he mentions states rights and lets churches decide how to help people.

You gotta completely clear the slate. It’s a philosophical question, a fundamental question for which there is no answer and no certainty unless you subscribe to presuppostions that a made up middle eastern god named Yahweh gives me my rights.

Does anyone have the right to control you, I mean after all we’re all hurling through space on a rock in a galaxy traveling 2,000,000 miles/hr through a universe. The idea that you have a right to tell me what to do just because this right has been bestowed upon you by another man is as much bullshit as religion is bullshit.

That’s why I would create no more laws then can be written on one side of a 3x5 card in 25 point font so even the blind can read it. That’s the rule, no more laws than this can be written, so make it a good one, the simplest law would be to “keep your hands to yourself”.

 

[jstarks11]

Dexter" pid='76434' dateline='1575822158:

What happened to the united states will happen to china much quicker. It’s much easier to imitate than innovate. Globalism is also a problem, if China does ban and punish those that make our raws, India might make them, but than the US will force them to stop and the whole process goes on and on. There are no countries far removed from the control of the United States, except maybe some of the middle eastern countries like Iran, which might not be such a bad place to manufacture.

As for the problems with our legal system, that really started in the early 70’s, since than the incarceration rate has jumped almost 700%. The solution to every problem is incarceration, because despite what some claim, it’s a cheap method of social control. It costs much more money for basically a European style welfare state that takes care of your basic needs. America in a sense doesn’t like that, they prefer punitive punishments, they relish the biblical idea of revenge “eye for an eye” and can’t see past the silliness of one dimensional or shallow thinking.

Basically America saw what was happening in the 50’s and 60’s with drugs and they freaked out, the heroin problems in Harlem(black people on drugs, black liberation movements as well, gotta stick those black people in prison), they couldn’t dream of ways other than sticking them in prison, it was like their minds only thought about one path to fix this issue. And here we are today where everything has been scheduled and your prison sentence has been decided, there is no discretion in this matter, it’s simply by the book, stand before a man in a robe that follows the law like it were a religious text, gives you a small lecture from his pulpit and sends you to your cage for X number of years even if you are absolutely no threat to anyone. Then give you a record for the rest of your life so your recidivism is almost guaranteed.

Thus you have the mass incarceration system the United States invented and will export to the world. Because America is really only good a two things, dropping bombs on people, and beating the shit out of them and tossing them in a cage like an animal.

Goddamn Dexter you are on point man. I’m sure we disagree on a few things. I would be what most call a conspiracy theorist. But I’m batting 100% on everything I have believed in on those regards once the truth comes out. You however sound like you have some education in the area. I myself am not educated whatsoever in politics. Just common sense understanding of what I actually SEE that most allow the wool to be pulled over their eyes and choose to believe what they THINK they see because they were told what TO see.

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Dexter" pid='76437' dateline='1575823940:

Ultimately America spends a lot of money on LE, they have militarized it for the war against drugs. They don’t want it sitting idle because they could lose funding.

Swat teams used to be few and far between 25 years ago, now they are all over the place. The Military has a much better understanding of escalating force and restraining themselves from going overboard. Our LE isn’t trained for this, they are handed equipment produced by military contractors and they suddenly think they’re rambo serving a warrant to an 89 year old women who they shoot a few times in the chest, flip her over and immediately handcuff her and let her bleed out to die.(true story)

These people we call LE have become much bigger thieves and criminals than our actual thieves, they steal more money and assets than any criminals could hope to steal. People are now more scared of LE than they are of criminals…I know I am.

We’ve funded these huge programs for cops and they don’t have anything to do, so instead of just having one cop deliver a warrant in a peaceful way, they show up in a 20,000 pound armored vehicle and men pour out and surround the guy inside watching the “price is right” while eating popcorn, they kick in the door as the man reaches for his remote they blow his brains out, his offense, failure to show up to pay a “not wearing a seatbelt fine”.

Just a couple of days ago, two robbers seize a UPS truck with the driver inside, the cops chase the robbers, fill the truck up full of holes killing the driver and a bystander. The police cheif then comes on tv and reminds the public that cops are heros and you should never question their low IQ’s.

This is what you have in America now. I’m getting tired of being told that we’re free, this is 110% pure bullshit, we have 40,000 new laws and regulations that are passed in this country every year, if you get caught jaywalking they can now tack on 30 other offenses and send you to prison for the rest of your life. You can’t even walk out your door without a cop driving by giving you the evil eye.

Dexter" pid='76440' dateline='1575824755:

jstarks11" pid='76435' dateline='1575822688:

WOW!!! Very impressive!!! I like everything you have said here! Trump is in fact an idiot!! Isn’t it ironic that some of the most wealthy people and publicly accepted, famous, etc people are STUPID as fuck??? WOW!!

The thing about Trump and company is that they deflect every criticism of this buffoon with “The economy is going great” “it’s the best its been since men landed on the moon”…that’s my new favorite line.

The truth is 70% of people in America hate their jobs, they’re on loads of antidepressants just so they can crawl out of bed and subject themselves to another day of meaningless humiliation doing things that serve no purpose other than to control the masses by diverting attention to that next shiny purchase their saving up for that will provide them with a ten minute squirt of dopamine.

The bottom line is we are tools for this government, we go to work, we pay taxes and we die. Flag, bible, and little children are what your politicians push, if you question any of this you are an unpatriotic pile of shit.

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jstarks11" pid='76438' dateline='1575824262:

How the FUCK could ANYONE EVER receive a LIFE sentence for WEED??? That is UNAMERICAN. So, now that weed is being looked at lightly and is becoming legal on state level, after almost 30 years incarcerated, they granted him an appeal and are letting him go? Man, we wonder why people go insane in Luby’s or Las Vegas, or Orlando, San Bernadino etc… When someone has to be given a life sentence for weed only and fight for almost 30 years in prison to get that monkey off their back… It makes a society go nuts man!!!

Making a bust is a great way to make it look like you’re doing something. It’s the path to promotion if you’re lucky enough to catch someone in the act.

Like I mentioned, we should never see cops out on the street unless you call for their help(like firemen) and only then can they respond to that specific call and once done they must go back to their station and mind their own business, they can’t take any detours, and stop anyone along the way. Warrants can only be served after being signed off by a committee of citizens that hate LE, I personally recommend Satanists as they are free thinkers and know bullshit when they see it.

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You’re a genius man, I don’t know how many times I will say it. I hate to hijack this thread CHINESE BAN into a REVOLUTION NOW thread. So I will get back to OP.
Ill hit you up in PM, if I can, not too familiar with this board yet. You are correct on what you say though bro.
As to the Chinese ban shit. I believe it is just that… SHIT. we will still see raws. Prices may increase but I don’t even know about that. Here is my logic. These Chinese suppliers, resellers, whatever you want to call them. They KNOW their country and it’s upcoming changes. They, who make their living at this, KNOW if it is coming to an end. And I can assure you that if they knew their LIVELIHOOD were in jeopardy they would not be saying “Buy raws while you still can” they would be saying “Raws are going to be obsolete so the prices JUST NOW tripled and you better get em while you can” and the price would ALREADY have gone up!!!
Just my 2 cents.

 

[Masterofron]

jstarks11" pid='76452' dateline='1575827959:

Dexter" pid='76434' dateline='1575822158:

What happened to the united states will happen to china much quicker. It’s much easier to imitate than innovate. Globalism is also a problem, if China does ban and punish those that make our raws, India might make them, but than the US will force them to stop and the whole process goes on and on. There are no countries far removed from the control of the United States, except maybe some of the middle eastern countries like Iran, which might not be such a bad place to manufacture.

As for the problems with our legal system, that really started in the early 70’s, since than the incarceration rate has jumped almost 700%. The solution to every problem is incarceration, because despite what some claim, it’s a cheap method of social control. It costs much more money for basically a European style welfare state that takes care of your basic needs. America in a sense doesn’t like that, they prefer punitive punishments, they relish the biblical idea of revenge “eye for an eye” and can’t see past the silliness of one dimensional or shallow thinking.

Basically America saw what was happening in the 50’s and 60’s with drugs and they freaked out, the heroin problems in Harlem(black people on drugs, black liberation movements as well, gotta stick those black people in prison), they couldn’t dream of ways other than sticking them in prison, it was like their minds only thought about one path to fix this issue. And here we are today where everything has been scheduled and your prison sentence has been decided, there is no discretion in this matter, it’s simply by the book, stand before a man in a robe that follows the law like it were a religious text, gives you a small lecture from his pulpit and sends you to your cage for X number of years even if you are absolutely no threat to anyone. Then give you a record for the rest of your life so your recidivism is almost guaranteed.

Thus you have the mass incarceration system the United States invented and will export to the world. Because America is really only good a two things, dropping bombs on people, and beating the shit out of them and tossing them in a cage like an animal.

Goddamn Dexter you are on point man. I’m sure we disagree on a few things. I would be what most call a conspiracy theorist. But I’m batting 100% on everything I have believed in on those regards once the truth comes out. You however sound like you have some education in the area. I myself am not educated whatsoever in politics. Just common sense understanding of what I actually SEE that most allow the wool to be pulled over their eyes and choose to believe what they THINK they see because they were told what TO see.

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Dexter" pid='76437' dateline='1575823940:

Ultimately America spends a lot of money on LE, they have militarized it for the war against drugs. They don’t want it sitting idle because they could lose funding.

Swat teams used to be few and far between 25 years ago, now they are all over the place. The Military has a much better understanding of escalating force and restraining themselves from going overboard. Our LE isn’t trained for this, they are handed equipment produced by military contractors and they suddenly think they’re rambo serving a warrant to an 89 year old women who they shoot a few times in the chest, flip her over and immediately handcuff her and let her bleed out to die.(true story)

These people we call LE have become much bigger thieves and criminals than our actual thieves, they steal more money and assets than any criminals could hope to steal. People are now more scared of LE than they are of criminals…I know I am.

We’ve funded these huge programs for cops and they don’t have anything to do, so instead of just having one cop deliver a warrant in a peaceful way, they show up in a 20,000 pound armored vehicle and men pour out and surround the guy inside watching the “price is right” while eating popcorn, they kick in the door as the man reaches for his remote they blow his brains out, his offense, failure to show up to pay a “not wearing a seatbelt fine”.

Just a couple of days ago, two robbers seize a UPS truck with the driver inside, the cops chase the robbers, fill the truck up full of holes killing the driver and a bystander. The police cheif then comes on tv and reminds the public that cops are heros and you should never question their low IQ’s.

This is what you have in America now. I’m getting tired of being told that we’re free, this is 110% pure bullshit, we have 40,000 new laws and regulations that are passed in this country every year, if you get caught jaywalking they can now tack on 30 other offenses and send you to prison for the rest of your life. You can’t even walk out your door without a cop driving by giving you the evil eye.

Dexter" pid='76440' dateline='1575824755:

jstarks11" pid='76435' dateline='1575822688:

WOW!!! Very impressive!!! I like everything you have said here! Trump is in fact an idiot!! Isn’t it ironic that some of the most wealthy people and publicly accepted, famous, etc people are STUPID as fuck??? WOW!!

The thing about Trump and company is that they deflect every criticism of this buffoon with “The economy is going great” “it’s the best its been since men landed on the moon”…that’s my new favorite line.

The truth is 70% of people in America hate their jobs, they’re on loads of antidepressants just so they can crawl out of bed and subject themselves to another day of meaningless humiliation doing things that serve no purpose other than to control the masses by diverting attention to that next shiny purchase their saving up for that will provide them with a ten minute squirt of dopamine.

The bottom line is we are tools for this government, we go to work, we pay taxes and we die. Flag, bible, and little children are what your politicians push, if you question any of this you are an unpatriotic pile of shit.

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jstarks11" pid='76438' dateline='1575824262:

How the FUCK could ANYONE EVER receive a LIFE sentence for WEED??? That is UNAMERICAN. So, now that weed is being looked at lightly and is becoming legal on state level, after almost 30 years incarcerated, they granted him an appeal and are letting him go? Man, we wonder why people go insane in Luby’s or Las Vegas, or Orlando, San Bernadino etc… When someone has to be given a life sentence for weed only and fight for almost 30 years in prison to get that monkey off their back… It makes a society go nuts man!!!

Making a bust is a great way to make it look like you’re doing something. It’s the path to promotion if you’re lucky enough to catch someone in the act.

Like I mentioned, we should never see cops out on the street unless you call for their help(like firemen) and only then can they respond to that specific call and once done they must go back to their station and mind their own business, they can’t take any detours, and stop anyone along the way. Warrants can only be served after being signed off by a committee of citizens that hate LE, I personally recommend Satanists as they are free thinkers and know bullshit when they see it.

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You’re a genius man, I don’t know how many times I will say it. I hate to hijack this thread CHINESE BAN into a REVOLUTION NOW thread. So I will get back to OP.
Ill hit you up in PM, if I can, not too familiar with this board yet. You are correct on what you say though bro.
As to the Chinese ban shit. I believe it is just that… SHIT. we will still see raws. Prices may increase but I don’t even know about that. Here is my logic. These Chinese suppliers, resellers, whatever you want to call them. They KNOW their country and it’s upcoming changes. They, who make their living at this, KNOW if it is coming to an end. And I can assure you that if they knew their LIVELIHOOD were in jeopardy they would not be saying “Buy raws while you still can” they would be saying “Raws are going to be obsolete so the prices JUST NOW tripled and you better get em while you can” and the price would ALREADY have gone up!!!
Just my 2 cents.

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Oh my fucking god.

 

[EnjoyYourSymptom]

It’s interesting to me that not many sources have commented on this. Our board has PPL and Dragon who could both offer some insight into what changes they are planning in light of the upcoming legal changes. So far we’ve heard from a SARM importer and not much else…

 

[Phanatic]

I might hit up Panda and Dragon on wickr rather than wait to hear more posts about Ivanka’s feet and libertarianism.

 

[jstarks11]

EnjoyYourSymptom" pid='76460' dateline='1575832941:

It’s interesting to me that not many sources have commented on this. Our board has PPL and Dragon who could both offer some insight into what changes they are planning in light of the upcoming legal changes. So far we’ve heard from a SARM importer and not much else…

This is exactly what I was getting at, if there were going to be some really drastic changes. The REAL providers would indeed be worried. Since SOLID providers are not sending these mass emails out, it tells you that there is probably not much to worry about.
It also gives you an opportunity to see the real from the fake!

 

[Masterofron]

jstarks11" pid='76463' dateline='1575833975:

EnjoyYourSymptom" pid='76460' dateline='1575832941:

It’s interesting to me that not many sources have commented on this. Our board has PPL and Dragon who could both offer some insight into what changes they are planning in light of the upcoming legal changes. So far we’ve heard from a SARM importer and not much else…

This is exactly what I was getting at, if there were going to be some really drastic changes. The REAL providers would indeed be worried. Since SOLID providers are not sending these mass emails out, it tells you that there is probably not much to worry about.
It also gives you an opportunity to see the real from the fake!

I think it was pharmahgh that mentioned it earlier, but yeh regardless of what’s actually happening this is a perfect opportunity for landmarkchem and those other email spammers to really kick it up a notch with their “advertising”.

 

[Dexter]

It all comes down to whether Trump wins another election. If he’s gone and we get someone that doesn’t care about this matter, China would quickly go back to business as usual.

 

[ForceAndFinesse91]

Dexter" pid='76451' dateline='1575827663:

jstarks11" pid='76447' dateline='1575826171:

WE GIVE US OUR RIGHTS!!!
LIVE AND LET LIVE.

I’ve mentioned in the past that I agree fundamentally with anarchist ways of thinking. Libertarian is a compromise, but to me it’s watered down and a slippery slope back to what we have today which is legislators doing the only thing they know, adding more laws and regulations. Libertarians would allow states to decide, but how is it that a state is any better off then the federal government, they aren’t. So this is the problem. Lots of states all across the country would have bumpkins in charge of peoples fate. We all liked Ron Paul, but there’s a disconnect with him when he mentions states rights and lets churches decide how to help people.

You gotta completely clear the slate. It’s a philosophical question, a fundamental question for which there is no answer and no certainty unless you subscribe to presuppostions that a made up middle eastern god named Yahweh gives me my rights.

Does anyone have the right to control you, I mean after all we’re all hurling through space on a rock in a galaxy traveling 2,000,000 miles/hr through a universe. The idea that you have a right to tell me what to do just because this right has been bestowed upon you by another man is as much bullshit as religion is bullshit.

That’s why I would create no more laws then can be written on one side of a 3x5 card in 25 point font so even the blind can read it. That’s the rule, no more laws than this can be written, so make it a good one, the simplest law would be to “keep your hands to yourself”.

You, sir, are one intelligent insightful openminded sonovabish and shit like this helps bring back some of that old faith in humanity thats been dieing in me this lasy 10 years. I wish there was more like you bro we could maybe go about changing some things about this shity crazy world we live in…

 

[Phanatic]

Panda said the article is fake.

 

[Dexter]

Phanatic" pid='76482' dateline='1575850468:

Panda said the article is fake.

So there will be no bans of any sort AAS or SARMS?

Who’s the idiot that created this hoax?