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yotreeman

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Just here to say fucking PREACH


What, like, it’s not happening at all? Seriously? Has the entire community literally just bought into a straight bullshit story?
 
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Dexter" pid='76434' dateline='1575822158:
What happened to the united states will happen to china much quicker. It’s much easier to imitate than innovate. Globalism is also a problem, if China does ban and punish those that make our raws, India might make them, but than the US will force them to stop and the whole process goes on and on. There are no countries far removed from the control of the United States, except maybe some of the middle eastern countries like Iran, which might not be such a bad place to manufacture.

As for the problems with our legal system, that really started in the early 70’s, since than the incarceration rate has jumped almost 700%. The solution to every problem is incarceration, because despite what some claim, it’s a cheap method of social control. It costs much more money for basically a European style welfare state that takes care of your basic needs. America in a sense doesn’t like that, they prefer punitive punishments, they relish the biblical idea of revenge “eye for an eye” and can’t see past the silliness of one dimensional or shallow thinking.

Basically America saw what was happening in the 50’s and 60’s with drugs and they freaked out, the heroin problems in Harlem(black people on drugs, black liberation movements as well, gotta stick those black people in prison), they couldn’t dream of ways other than sticking them in prison, it was like their minds only thought about one path to fix this issue. And here we are today where everything has been scheduled and your prison sentence has been decided, there is no discretion in this matter, it’s simply by the book, stand before a man in a robe that follows the law like it were a religious text, gives you a small lecture from his pulpit and sends you to your cage for X number of years even if you are absolutely no threat to anyone. Then give you a record for the rest of your life so your recidivism is almost guaranteed.

Thus you have the mass incarceration system the United States invented and will export to the world. Because America is really only good a two things, dropping bombs on people, and beating the shit out of them and tossing them in a cage like an animal.
Phanatic" pid='76482' dateline='1575850468:
Panda said the article is fake.
Wait, seriously? Like none of this is happening at all? The entire community just straight up swallowed a load of complete bullshit?
 
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jstarks11

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Dexter" pid='76469' dateline='1575838199:
It all comes down to whether Trump wins another election. If he’s gone and we get someone that doesn’t care about this matter, China would quickly go back to business as usual.
Yeah Dex, I believe this 100%. But I also believe honestly that with or without Trump we are still getting raws. Just may be a little different or a bit more costly.
 
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Really it doesn’t matter one way or the other.

The real problem is the war on drugs, until we recognize individual liberty and autonomy, allow people to do what they want to themselves behind closed doors and allow them to suffer whatever consequences come with that activity.

This is really a matter of the government viewing us as property, they want us controlled so we are either able to fight and die in their stupid wars or work and keep paying taxes until we fall over dead.
 
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It is real I have seen in my brewing groups and on WhatsApp all the Chinese manufacturers are jumping ship. Some are starting to scam folks too. Most of them are saying Dec 20th as the day because then they will be going into the NE Year.
 
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It is real I have seen in my brewing groups and on WhatsApp all the Chinese manufacturers are jumping ship. Some are starting to scam folks too. Most of them are saying Dec 20th as the day because then they will be going into the NE Year.
PPL seems to know a whole lot more than anyone else on this matter.

According to PPL, raws will continue for certain producers that have license to produce and others will stop production because they don’t have a license. Also there will be India that will allow production of banned things in China.

Gotta wait a few months to see what happens, but it looks like everything will be fine for those that stay connected to the right sources that have licenses.

As for scams, might not be such a great time to place that $1000 order until Feb 2020 if your source is sketchy.
 
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I just saw a mail from LMC about them closing down. So I will wait until Feb 2020 as mentioned before here until I start a try order somewhere else.

"Hi friend,

Greetings!

You may have heard the news about Chinese government’s recent policy to tighten controls of hormone products. At this time, our company tried to obtain more social consultation and network establishment through various channels, but unfortunately all the staff involved in hormone products, such as freight forwarders, middlemen, warehouse administrators, etc. have all abandoned this jobs at present. In response to this enormous challenge, we have finally decided to stop selling any steroid-related products from January 2020. Thank you for your continuous trust in me and our company in the past few years. It has been my honor to cooperate with you.

In addition, our company has enough product inventory for you to purchase in December, which is also the last month for us to sell steroids. If there is any demand, please be sure to tell me as soon as possible and I will arrange delivery for you soon. …"
 
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I’m about to travel to China and need to bring my gear… I have pharma from a TRT Rx and UGL from here. Was planning on bringing the UGL but guess I’ll bring the pharma just in case. Never felt paranoid bringing this stuff until now, I hope it turns out to nothing.
 
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So looking at the status of some INT RAW suppliers, it’s not looking good. Some INT RAW sources disappeared and some doubled their prices for RAWS. I hope this is only going to be temporary… DOMESTIC sources are obviously free to price what ever they want to make a profit, but lets all hope the prices don’t increase like crazy too…
 
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Yeah, I need to get raws but I dont want to pay twice what the prices were a week ago!
 
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Buying from various sources shipping to EU, they’ve all stated that it won’t affect their product range nor prices for the future. Either they’re really well stocked or this isn’t as impactful.
 
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Buying from various sources shipping to EU, they’ve all stated that it won’t affect their product range nor prices for the future. Either they’re really well stocked or this isn’t as impactful.
PPL who I use for raws has more than doubled his prices. If this is not temporary I think I will be just lowering doses and paying the same overall amount, I cannot justify paying more than double. I coincidentally have enough supplement powders to last a good year or 2/3 depending on how fast I go through them but this is gonna suck so much ass if prices don’t go back down. I really hope trump loses the election and they fuck off with this shit afterwards. If this is how it’s gonna be then people like trump can fuck off, as far as I care now, bring in hillary and all the degenerate liberal shit if they leave us alone instead of playing these cock size games banning stuff.
 
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riskyneedlefetish" pid='78241' dateline='1578226583:
appropionate" pid='78237' dateline='1578223901:
Buying from various sources shipping to EU, they’ve all stated that it won’t affect their product range nor prices for the future. Either they’re really well stocked or this isn’t as impactful.
PPL who I use for raws has more than doubled his prices. If this is not temporary I think I will be just lowering doses and paying the same overall amount, I cannot justify paying more than double. I coincidentally have enough supplement powders to last a good year or 2/3 depending on how fast I go through them but this is gonna suck so much ass if prices don’t go back down. I really hope trump loses the election and they fuck off with this shit afterwards. If this is how it’s gonna be then people like trump can fuck off, as far as I care now, bring in hillary and all the degenerate liberal shit if they leave us alone instead of playing these cock size games banning stuff.
I thought it was all fake eh? ?

Anyone that believed that is an idiot.
 
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Apparently cialis and viagra are gonna be gone for good? At least from what I heard from a large player locally
 
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Mrolympia99" pid='78296' dateline='1578273047:
Apparently cialis and viagra are gonna be gone for good? At least from what I heard from a large player locally
PPL still has cialis raw and capsules and viagra caps.


riskyneedlefetish" pid='78241' dateline='1578226583:
I really hope trump loses the election and they fuck off with this shit afterwards…
There obviously certain things that were already fairly expensive that doubled in price, per gram it’s not worth the cost to the individual to pay $10/gram, but if you’re a source and you make a living then you pay what you have to and pass the high prices onto others. Buying raws before this price increase was a tremendous savings, you could easily accumulate a kilo of various raws for $2000-3500.

As for politics and the like. One thing you have to realize is that many in the body building community buy into the whole conservative tough guy act and they like Trump(even though he’s a moron). Most of these people aren’t thinking this through very well. Freedom to do as you please is what you’re after, you don’t want politicians messing with any aspect of your private life, every day one of these peckerwoods go to work is another day they create legislation that takes away more of your rights. Think about it, when is the last time these people met to establish more rights and freedom…never.

They exist to hem you into a cocoon, claiming they are keeping society safe by robbing you of any thing that might harm. They view us as their property, both conservatives and dems, they see freedom as a threat to tax revenue. That’s why you vote libertarian if you must vote, it’s the only sane choice for those that do AAS and want government out of their lives.
Conservatives suck because of their backwards views on religion, morality, military, LE, police state and mass incarceration. Liberals suck because they want nanny state policies and believe they can fix everything around them instead of admitting that much of life is a shit show no matter what you do, the don’t realize that the free market sorts things out if you completely get out of the way and let certain institutions collapse like they should, while other more nimble business models rise to replace dinosaurs.

As for Trump, he’s going balls deep into the evangelical vote, he spends his time with people that should be locked up in an insane asylum. We all know Trump used to screw prostitutes, porn stars and playboy bunnies, his wife is an eastern European whore, these are all fine attributes in my opinion, but now he’s hanging with the worst of the worst, the right wing religious psychos, trust me I’m old enough to have seen this many times, if you’re smart you’ll get this fat POS out of office before takes a second term and takes away even more of your freedoms.

The key to the next generation living with freedom and prosperity(and I’m not talking about just money) is to burn many of these older institutions to the ground, there will be pain, baby boomers will lose their 401K, there will be anger, but if the younger generation wants a future to move in a direction of their choosing, you better dismantle the government asap, what the boomers have planed for this country is a disaster for the younger generation that will be left with the bill. Talking to boomers and working with them for many years, I can assure you they don’t give a f about the younger generation, so I would think it would only be fair to reciprocate.
 
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Mrolympia99" pid='78296' dateline='1578273047:
Apparently cialis and viagra are gonna be gone for good? At least from what I heard from a large player locally
I’m hearing that cialis, viagra and sarms are first to go
 
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