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looks like orange tops are back in stock for those who were waiting
As wellcurious about this as well!
Recently read a German study about intramuscular vs sub q injection. I’ve been doing sub q for about a year now and just recently about a month ago changed to im. Noticeable difference for me in vascularoty and fullness. Absorption rates are much higher im vs sub q. I’ll post the study belowDid you do ur injections sub or IM? And compared to the other GH u have had how did this compare to previous makers?
I have been doing them sub and I'm considering continuing it because I really enjoy the sleep benefits. And Im worried about taking it IM and not being so sleepy for soo long. But at the same time I've seen multiple people say the gains are better from Im because of the faster action. So I'm trying to decide what to do. And I never tried any other sources before this. But it literally changed everything for me it's definitely strong. The first 2 times I went up to 3 Iu my hands went numb, and I gained like 10 lbs without changing my diet and it looks like I have a pump constantly. It looks like what I thought tren would do. I'm up to 5 iu a day now and it's changed my physique more than any change in dosage or compound with the actual roids. So I haven't tried other sources but I don't see how it could get any better than this unless u can get serostim or something.Did you do ur injections sub or IM? And compared to the other GH u have had how did this compare to previous makers?
I haven’t but I’m super curious too, I mean you hear all about pharma but when you think china you think generic. Would it be the quality of generic of the quality of say genotropin. And the price is obviously appealing.Anyone tried the ansomone? I’ve heard decent things about it
I like the enthusiasm but GH dimerization is not a good thing.I have an interesting partial idea about dimer. This is a work in progress and I invite anybody else to look into this and offer any info. I barely know what I'm talking about so sorry if this sounds dumb.
So bassically. Ive been using opti for most of this past year, and absolutely loved the results. If my estrogen is in good range and diet is on point Ive been able to have gains that seem to be equal to what I think they would be on twice as much gear.
With opti stuff I have a crazy amount of fullness. Now at first I started getting thick ankles which is sketchy but I started on 25 hctz a day and that cleaned that right up while keeping all my fullness from the gh.
So recently I tried a different supplier out just one kit and so far 4 vials in at 5 Iu a day and I've lost like half my fullness and like 7 lbs BW without changing my diet or doses. So looking into it and the main difference is the new kit has almost 0 dimer while these opti kits sometimes have a little more so I wondered. What exactly does dimer do? Is it really that bad to have dimer? Everybody says you want less dimer but nobody says exactly what it does or why. I've heard some people say they hold too much water from higher doses of gh with higher dimer. but like I said u can fix that with hctz. Some pharmacy gh has diuretics in it already anyways. And is that a bad thing to hold more water if you look way more full, blood pressure is in healthy range, and ankles are water free??
So I started looking up what dimer is. I still haven't been able to find out what actual dimer in hgh is and what it does. But from a little searching around I found out about dimerization of receptors. And when you search what is the importance of dimerization of receptors, this is the answer you get on Google.
"However, dimerization provides two advantages to the thermophilic enzyme: it protects its structure against denaturation by reducing thermal fluctuations and it provides a less negative activation entropy, toning down the increase of the activation free energy with temperature"
Idk what that means exactly. But it sounds like it could be a good thing lol.
Now I'm not sure what the difference between dimer content is in hgh and dimerization of receptors.. this is where my lack of knowledge limits me to figure out what's happening any further.
That being said, regardless of what the significance of any of this is, I'll be sticking with opti over the other cheaper source on here.. I can tell a visual difference for sure.
awesome. im using 3iu of the greys too right now. actually sleeping well on cycle was such a game changerOnly posting this to show my IGF-1 levels. Been on Opti Grays for about 5 weeks. The first 2 weeks was 2iu. The last 3 weeks or so has been 3iu. Zero side effects (knock on wood). Sleep better than ever. Feel great so far. Also i realize 5 weeks isn't a long time for GH but the sleep part is changing how I operate in the gym and my day to day.
For real. Derek from More Plates More Dates showed his levels at 3iu of pharma grade stuff from back in the day and if i remember correctly, his was around 470. So im more than happy with these numbers.Damn - big numbers at 3iu.
1000%awesome. im using 3iu of the greys too right now. actually sleeping well on cycle was such a game changer
This makes me excited to see, I just started the greys 5 weeks ago too, first experience with GH. Ran 2iu for the first 4 weeks and just upped it to 3iu last week. Getting bloods in another week or two, hopefully my results are similar! No sides at all on 2iu, started getting numb hands upon waking with 3iu so definitely working. Deeper, high quality sleep has been a game changer for sure.Only posting this to show my IGF-1 levels. Been on Opti Grays for about 5 weeks. The first 2 weeks was 2iu. The last 3 weeks or so has been 3iu. Zero side effects (knock on wood). Sleep better than ever. Feel great so far. Also i realize 5 weeks isn't a long time for GH but the sleep part is changing how I operate in the gym and my day to day.
That’s what I’m looking for with the “trt” I have.This makes me excited to see, I just started the greys 5 weeks ago too, first experience with GH. Ran 2iu for the first 4 weeks and just upped it to 3iu last week. Getting bloods in another week or two, hopefully my results are similar! No sides at all on 2iu, started getting numb hands upon waking with 3iu so definitely working. Deeper, high quality sleep has been a game changer for sure.
Hey man, revisiting this thread to ad a question.This makes me excited to see, I just started the greys 5 weeks ago too, first experience with GH. Ran 2iu for the first 4 weeks and just upped it to 3iu last week. Getting bloods in another week or two, hopefully my results are similar! No sides at all on 2iu, started getting numb hands upon waking with 3iu so definitely working. Deeper, high quality sleep has been a game changer for sure.
Yes I an automated email with tracking within about 24 hours of placing my order but I’ve read in here not everyone does.Hey man, revisiting this thread to ad a question.
Did u ever receive tracking? Ik some sources will just ship it a send tracking if even asked but I emailed an heard nothing so just curious. Got all that confirmation stuff
Fuck lol, I guess it’s cold outside now so it’s alright.Yes I an automated email with tracking within about 24 hours of placing my order but I’ve read in here not everyone does.