Project 235 lbs classic to open division

[Lord]

Got an interview tomorrow at a bad ass private 24 hour warehouse gym called oak fitness . Fingers crossed I get it ! So I can make more income and have a bad ass gym open 24/7 to kill it for my upcoming show battle of Tx in Irving !

 

[Lord]

I’ve done more research as to what I want to run for my off season cycle leading up to the battle .

Sus 900 mg weekly 300 x3 @OdinLabs ( I like that his sus is over dosed to almost 350 mg and it’s only $30 and I have tried it with no pip whatsoever ! )

Dhb 600 mg weekly ( 150 x4) @OdinLabs substitute for my favorite anabolic stenbolone as it seems no one produces it ! But I hear Odin dhb is smooth and pip isn’t bad !


Mast p 400 mg weekly (100 x4) @OdinLabs
Might as well stick to the line . Throwing this in to control progesterone and estrodiol from ment ace and for sex drive and well being.


Ment ace 160 mg weekly ( 40 x4 ) amino asylum unless @OdinLabs will carry it hahahah but if not illl try aminos .

Sarms as substitutes for oral steroids

Lgd oil 10 mg pre workout wet amino asylum

Sarm 23 oil 10 mg pre workout dry amino asylum


Peptides

Mgf and igf from amino or blue sky or any better suggestions

Tb500 and bpc might get from Odin when he gets them or amino



Igf des pre workout in target muscle amino

Peg mgf rest days amino

Mgf basic post workout blue sky


Aromasin 12.5 mg eod amino



Dvst8 premium pre workout


Cialis 10 mg viagra blend from Odin

 

[goodfella]

substitute for my favorite anabolic stenbolone as it seems no one produces it.

Superman body at promuscle has it dosed at 100mg from over seas. Might be worth checking them out as they have a killer priced sarm list also.

 

[Lord]

Superman body at promuscle has it dosed at 100mg from over seas. Might be worth checking them out as they have a killer priced sarm list also.

I was banned from pro muscle lol

 

[Lord]

And I don’t want to deal with ol customs and over seas

 

[goodfella]

I was banned from pro muscle lol

lol I'm sure I would be too if I was active on there. Only there for domestic shipped t4.

I've been wanting to try inject m-sten for a minute as oral m-sten has always been dry, hard gains. Hopefully someone on here adds it to their list.

 

[Lord]

lol I'm sure I would be too if I was active on there. Only there for domestic shipped t4.

I've been wanting to try inject m-sten for a minute as oral m-sten has always been dry, hard gains. Hopefully someone on here adds it to their list.

I didn’t even do anything , 808 dupped me and I tried to call him out on it and the mods didn’t like it . But amino asylum has m sten

 

[Lord]

lol I'm sure I would be too if I was active on there. Only there for domestic shipped t4.

I've been wanting to try inject m-sten for a minute as oral m-sten has always been dry, hard gains. Hopefully someone on here adds it to their list.

Oh u said inject m sten that sounds intense !!

What’s ur favorite off season mass stack I was thinking trestolone as it sounds good on paper but Everytime I look back at pics on it I’m like god I looked so ugly and blubbery

 

[Lord]

Oh u said inject m sten that sounds intense !!

What’s ur favorite off season mass stack I was thinking trestolone as it sounds good on paper but Everytime I look back at pics on it I’m like god I looked so ugly and blubbery

Best look I ever had was on stenbolone or
Dhb

 

[Lord]

So after watching the very informative YouTube video by Dr . Todd Lee . He advised that most modern bodybuilders today don’t focus their cycle design around testosterone as the muscle builder. He said today they use a more side clean builder to gain mass such as higher eq or Masteron over test with a lot of gh and no a. I .

They keep test to around 350 mg to 500 mg at most with 1-2 g of eq or Masteron as the clean muscle builder that also checks estrogen .

He says u can’t be a bodybuilder without gh . Without test and gh . And the muscle builder would be high amounts of Masteron or eq .

Also of importantance is insulin sensitivity.

 

[Lord]

So after that I wrote out my new cycle plan

 

[Lord]

.

• Telismartin 20 mg pre workout for hypertension and blood flow and every day
• 5-10 mg of cialis pre workout or every day

• L carnitine inj pre workout

• Health support

• Heart , liver

Ubiquinol or Coq10

Nac

Tudca

• Insulin sensitivity

Berberine

• Kidney health

Astralagus

• Anti inflammatories

Curcumin

Fish oil





Hrt phase or

Health phase



140 -200 test weekly

2 iu daily of gh







Pro bodybuilder cycle



-every day injections or every other day injections



Testosterone ( 500-600 mg ) function

Masteron ( 1 g -2 g ) to grow clean



Add calories





Titrate



Growth phase



Weeks 1-2



Sus or test prop or test ace or test pp

: 400 mg weekly or (100 eod)



Mast e or mast p 200 : 800 mg weekly ( 200 eod )



Gh : 3 units before bed







Weeks 3-4



Sus : 500 mg weekly or (125 eod )

Mast e : 1g weekly or ( 250 eod )



Gh : 4 units before bed

• Improving insulin sensitivity

10 mins walks after each meal



Berberine with every meal

• Carbohydrates utilization

5 iu humalog pre workout





Telmistartan

Cialis





Fish oil







Weeks 4-6



Sus : 600 mg weekly ( 150 eod )

Mast e : 1.2 g weekly ( 300 eod )



Gh 4 units before bed . 2 units pre workout .

( 6 units )





Weeks 6-8



Sus : 600 mg weekly

Mast e : 1.4 g weekly ( 350 eod ) can up mast if necessary



Gh 4 iu night / 3 units pre workout

7 iu



Pre workout

Take carnitine

3 iu gh pre workout

5 iu humalog

20 mg Telismartan

5 mg Cialis



Post workout optional my opinion

Mgf immediately post / igf lr 3 30

Mins later





Night

4 iu gh and anti inflammatories



T4 for the gh



Carnatine



Amino acids carb intra workout drink





Fish oil at night / turmeric at night or anti inflammatories away from training





Igf and mgf post workout









Weeks 8-10



Test 600 mg week



Mast 1.4 g



Gh 4 iu night / 4 iu pre workout





Pre workout

Take carnitine

4 iu gh pre workout

5 iu humalog

20 mg Telismartan

5 mg Cialis



Post workout optional my opinion

Mgf immediately post / igf lr 3 30

Mins later





Night

4 iu gh and anti inflammatories





Weeks 10-12



Test 600 mg week



Mast 1.4 g



Gh 6 iu night / 6 iu pre workout

12 units





Pre workout

Take carnitine

6 iu gh pre workout

5 iu humalog

20 mg Telismartan

5 mg Cialis



Post workout optional my opinion

Mgf immediately post / igf lr 3 30

Mins later





Night

6 iu gh and anti inflammatories









Shopping list





Gear



@OdinLabs 300 sus



@Synergy Forge

Test prop 200

Mast p 200



@MuscleCandy

Sus 250

Mast p 200


@Minty

150 mg test p

150 mg test pp





Everything else
Amino acids or else where


Bpc amino


TELMISARTAN 40MG



IGF-LR3 1MG



PEG-MGF 2MG



T4 200MCG 30ML



TADALAFIL 30ML X 20MG



Tb500



Carnitine





Gh

@kits4less



Fast insulin

Humalog or Walmart

 

[dick_starbuck]

I think you're spending way too much time "mapping out" your cycles. Just titrate the dosages up as your weight/goals dictate. Start low and every few weeks when the weight stalls, add ~100mg of test or your secondary anabolic. Start with 3iu of HGH before bed and increas it 1iu every few weeks until you're at a dose that you can afford to run sustainably for many months on end.

Save your money on the IGF-lr3 and MGF, those are both downstream by-products of HGH anyway.

You can take your telmisartan before bed or first thing in the morning as well. It has a 24 hour active life, there is no reason to take it preworkout.

I would really recommend against taking berberine with every meal as well, it can cause some serious gastric issues. Just take 600mg before bed and increase it if your fasting glucose starts to rise.

Otherwise 500mg citrus bergamot 2x a day, 1000mg fish oil and 1000mg flax oil with every meal, 1200mg NAC twice a day with 200mg magnesium glycenate, 1000mg curcumin/turmeric with bioperine before bed, and an astragalus product that uses astragalus extract. I really recommend Project AD or Leviathan Nutrition for the astragalus and bergamot because I've seen serious improvements with my bloodwork using those products over others. Previously I've used Revive and saw zero bloodwork improvements with them.

 

[goodfella]

Oh u said inject m sten that sounds intense !!

What’s ur favorite off season mass stack I was thinking trestolone as it sounds good on paper but Everytime I look back at pics on it I’m like god I looked so ugly and blubbery

For oils; something like gram of test, EQ, NPP. For orals; 10-15mg of superdrol or Rad140 at 30-40mg with LGD4033 20-30mg. Usually stick to the sarms RAD and LGD for mass as they always seemed less toxic and I dont get the fatigue like I would after 3-4 weeks of superdrol. Those two sarms together I've gained some serious mass without even trying. Example; starting low 220's and finishing around at 256-258, and being a lot leaner than I had previously been at that weight. That was over probably a 3-4 month length. Next time I run those two sarms together going to try adding in the yk-11 to keep things a bit more dry.

I feel you on the trestolone. I've had my share of up's n downs with it. When I first ran it, estro was hard to control and manage, which is the main thing thats kept me away from using it again. Something kinda in the back of my head, but I'm thinking of adding in some trest-ace as it's been probably 10 years since running it. Plus it being a bit more popular on this form, I can't help but scratch the itch to give it another try.

 

[Lord]

Yes I

I think you're spending way too much time "mapping out" your cycles. Just titrate the dosages up as your weight/goals dictate. Start low and every few weeks when the weight stalls, add ~100mg of test or your secondary anabolic. Start with 3iu of HGH before bed and increas it 1iu every few weeks until you're at a dose that you can afford to run sustainably for many months on end.

Save your money on the IGF-lr3 and MGF, those are both downstream by-products of HGH anyway.

You can take your telmisartan before bed or first thing in the morning as well. It has a 24 hour active life, there is no reason to take it preworkout.

I would really recommend against taking berberine with every meal as well, it can cause some serious gastric issues. Just take 600mg before bed and increase it if your fasting glucose starts to rise.

Otherwise 500mg citrus bergamot 2x a day, 1000mg fish oil and 1000mg flax oil with every meal, 1200mg NAC twice a day with 200mg magnesium glycenate, 1000mg curcumin/turmeric with bioperine before bed, and an astragalus product that uses astragalus extract. I really recommend Project AD or Leviathan Nutrition for the astragalus and bergamot because I've seen serious improvements with my bloodwork using those products over others. Previously I've used Revive and saw zero bloodwork improvements with them.

Yes I believe you are right about mgf and igf . But mgf I think may have some benefit directly . But I believe the gh with estrodiol from test will convert a great deal to igf .

 

[Lord]

Yes I

Yes I believe you are right about mgf and igf . But mgf I think may have some benefit directly . But I believe the gh with estrodiol from test will convert a great deal to igf .

Also thank u for the recommendations on health items

 

[Lord]

For oils; something like gram of test, EQ, NPP. For orals; 10-15mg of superdrol or Rad140 at 30-40mg with LGD4033 20-30mg. Usually stick to the sarms RAD and LGD for mass as they always seemed less toxic and I dont get the fatigue like I would after 3-4 weeks of superdrol. Those two sarms together I've gained some serious mass without even trying. Example; starting low 220's and finishing around at 256-258, and being a lot leaner than I had previously been at that weight. That was over probably a 3-4 month length. Next time I run those two sarms together going to try adding in the yk-11 to keep things a bit more dry.

I feel you on the trestolone. I've had my share of up's n downs with it. When I first ran it, estro was hard to control and manage, which is the main thing thats kept me away from using it again. Something kinda in the back of my head, but I'm thinking of adding in some trest-ace as it's been probably 10 years since running it. Plus it being a bit more popular on this form, I can't help but scratch the itch to give it another try.

So you would run Lgd , rad , yk ur next blast

 

[goodfella]

So you would run Lgd , rad , yk ur next blast

Thats what I've been considering. Running the Lgd and Rad first and then add in the YK11 more towards the end or half way through. I've found one sarm company that has a blend that includes all three together at a good dosing.

A bit off topic; I've never actually ran winstrol ever before as mast kills my hair line and makes me shed in one frontal area, it sucks lol. So winny being a dht, I always stayed away from it. Fast forward to today being older and wanting to stay more lean than bulky blocky look, kinda would like to throw it in for a cut when the time comes. Wanted to try a high androgen blast of Tren-a, DHB, Winny, and up the current gh dose. That all being said, I'm sorta leaning toward the YK11 instead as you mentioned it being a bit better suited than winstrol. Still would like to try winstrol, but if can avoid the sides and use something else thats not going to have the negatives of winstrol, might as well skip it was thinking...

 

[Lord]

Thats what I've been considering. Running the Lgd and Rad first and then add in the YK11 more towards the end or half way through. I've found one sarm company that has a blend that includes all three together at a good dosing.

A bit off topic; I've never actually ran winstrol ever before as mast kills my hair line and makes me shed in one frontal area, it sucks lol. So winny being a dht, I always stayed away from it. Fast forward to today being older and wanting to stay more lean than bulky blocky look, kinda would like to throw it in for a cut when the time comes. Wanted to try a high androgen blast of Tren-a, DHB, Winny, and up the current gh dose. That all being said, I'm sorta leaning toward the YK11 instead as you mentioned it being a bit better suited than winstrol. Still would like to try winstrol, but if can avoid the sides and use something else thats not going to have the negatives of winstrol, might as well skip it was thinking...

Winstrol is ok to me not one of my
Faves but it does good for stength

 

[dick_starbuck]

Winstrol is ok to me not one of my
Faves but it does good for stength

Winstrol is incredible I'm the final weeks leading up to a show. 50-100mg daily the last week especially will change the way your skin looks. This is of course only true if you are at or sub 5% body fat.