Project 235 lbs classic to open division

[calist181]

So after watching the very informative YouTube video by Dr . Todd Lee . He advised that most modern bodybuilders today don’t focus their cycle design around testosterone as the muscle builder. He said today they use a more side clean builder to gain mass such as higher eq or Masteron over test with a lot of gh and no a. I .

They keep test to around 350 mg to 500 mg at most with 1-2 g of eq or Masteron as the clean muscle builder that also checks estrogen .

He says u can’t be a bodybuilder without gh . Without test and gh . And the muscle builder would be high amounts of Masteron or eq .

Also of importantance is insulin sensitivity.

What's the title of the video? I went through his list and almost everyone one is titled "How to grow" or "How to cut".

 

[Lord]

What's the title of the video? I went through his list and almost everyone one is titled "How to grow" or "How to cut".

 

[calist181]

So after watching the very informative YouTube video by Dr . Todd Lee . He advised that most modern bodybuilders today don’t focus their cycle design around testosterone as the muscle builder. He said today they use a more side clean builder to gain mass such as higher eq or Masteron over test with a lot of gh and no a. I .

They keep test to around 350 mg to 500 mg at most with 1-2 g of eq or Masteron as the clean muscle builder that also checks estrogen .

He says u can’t be a bodybuilder without gh . Without test and gh . And the muscle builder would be high amounts of Masteron or eq .

Also of importantance is insulin sensitivity.

What's the title of the video? I went through his list and almost everyone one is titled "How to grow" or "How to cut".

Thanks

 

[Lord]

What's the title of the video? I went through his list and almost everyone one is titled "How to grow" or "How to cut".

Thanks

You’re welcome

 

[dick_starbuck]

Do yourselves a favor and skip Dr Todd and go right to Paul Barnetts videos and Kurt Havens.

Although Dr Todd's videos with Coach DJ, remedial street chemistry, are pretty good.

Better yet just hire a good coach who knows all this stuff and will teach you what you need to know.

 

[Lord]

So once I get my funds up I will do this profession .


Week 1-2

Anabolics

Test ace or test prop or sus : 500 mg weekly

Mast p : .6 ml eod ( 240 mg weekly )

Mast e : 600 mg weekly ( 200 x 3

840 mg mast weekly

Pre workout

L - Carnatine inj 200 mg

TELMISARTAN 20 mg

3 iu gh

5 iu insulin

200 mcg igf des bilateral


Post workout

Igf lr3 and mgf


Night

Second 3 iu gh shot




Weeks 3-4

Anabolics

Test ace or test prop or sus : 600 mg weekly

Mast p : 1 ml eod ( 400 mg weekly )

Mast e : 600 mg weekly ( 200 x 3

1 g mast weekly


Pre workout

L - Carnatine inj 200 mg

TELMISARTAN 20 mg

4 iu gh

5 iu insulin

200 mcg igf des bilateral


Post workout

Igf lr3 and mgf

Night

Second 4 iu gh shot




Week 4-6

Anabolics

Test ace or test prop or sus : 750 mg weekly

Mast e : 1 .5 g mast weekly

Pre workout

L - Carnatine inj 200 mg

TELMISARTAN 20 mg

4 iu gh

5 iu insulin

200 mcg igf des bilateral

Post workout

Igf lr3 and mgf


Night

Second 6 iu gh shot

 

[Lord]

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Do yourselves a favor and skip Dr Todd and go right to Paul Barnetts videos and Kurt Havens.

Although Dr Todd's videos with Coach DJ, remedial street chemistry, are pretty good.

Better yet just hire a good coach who knows all this stuff and will teach you what you need to know.

I like Todd’s advice and will try it out for myself .

I’ve seen all of their videos.

 

[calist181]

Do yourselves a favor and skip Dr Todd and go right to Paul Barnetts videos and Kurt Havens.

Although Dr Todd's videos with Coach DJ, remedial street chemistry, are pretty good.

Better yet just hire a good coach who knows all this stuff and will teach you what you need to know.

There seems to be a ton of coaching services in yt. 2 that come to mind is Dr James and Vigorous Steve. Not not knowing who they've coached is tough to pick anyone out there.

 

[Lord]

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There seems to be a ton of coaching services in yt. 2 that come to mind is Dr James and Vigorous Steve. Not not knowing who they've coached is tough to pick anyone out there.

like vigorous Steve

 

[Lord]

So big shout out to @OdinLabs . I just placed an order to get the ball somewhat rolling . I ordered sustanon 300( which according to janosik test his sus 300 is actually 344 mg per ml !) ; mast e 200 ( I’m actually gonna need tons of Masteron as I plan to run 1–2 g per week ) and inj a drol ( testing it for compound holding in solution ; if the injection site hurts or pip , and effectiveness ) .

So got the main steroid stack down !

Now need to get some gh , ( mgf and igf wanted but not necessarily needed ) , tb and bpc for sure , and all the other health items and so on .

 

[dick_starbuck]

There seems to be a ton of coaching services in yt. 2 that come to mind is Dr James and Vigorous Steve. Not not knowing who they've coached is tough to pick anyone out there.

You're sure to waste tons of money going with a YouTube coach, their prices are exorbitant because of their exposure.

I would pick an IFBB pro that coaches, and knows what he's talking about. Someone who is being coached by another big name in the industry that produces results.

My last coach is a national level compeditor who has previously been coached by Matt Jansen and Phil Viz. I learned alot from him and made great progress and only paid 200 bucks a month. Some of these coaches out here charge way more.

 

[Lord]

You're sure to waste tons of money going with a YouTube coach, their prices are exorbitant because of their exposure.

I would pick an IFBB pro that coaches, and knows what he's talking about. Someone who is being coached by another big name in the industry that produces results.

My last coach is a national level compeditor who has previously been coached by Matt Jansen and Phil Viz. I learned alot from him and made great progress and only paid 200 bucks a month. Some of these coaches out here charge way more.

Yes 200 a month is a good deal .

 

[goodfella]

So big shout out to @OdinLabs . I just placed an order to get the ball somewhat rolling . I ordered sustanon 300( which according to janosik test his sus 300 is actually 344 mg per ml !) ; mast e 200 ( I’m actually gonna need tons of Masteron as I plan to run 1–2 g per week ) and inj a drol ( testing it for compound holding in solution ; if the injection site hurts or pip , and effectiveness ) .

So got the main steroid stack down !

Now need to get some gh , ( mgf and igf wanted but not necessarily needed ) , tb and bpc for sure , and all the other health items and so on .

I used his inject anadrol, it's good. IT's been holding no problems so far. Post injection site pip/burn isn't anything you'll notice the next day. Pretty standard good guaiacol product, with no complaints. I was pinning delts, v glutes, and pecs with no issues. Will use again.

 

[Lord]

I used his inject anadrol, it's good. IT's been holding no problems so far. Post injection site pip/burn isn't anything you'll notice the next day. Pretty standard good guaiacol product, with no complaints. I was pinning delts, v glutes, and pecs with no issues. Will use again.

Thats good to know . I tried inj a drol before from psl and it always crashed and the shots were painful af . Hideous pip .

 

[Lord]

I used his inject anadrol, it's good. IT's been holding no problems so far. Post injection site pip/burn isn't anything you'll notice the next day. Pretty standard good guaiacol product, with no complaints. I was pinning delts, v glutes, and pecs with no issues. Will use again.

Was the shot painful ?

 

[goodfella]

Thats good to know . I tried inj a drol before from psl and it always crashed and the shots were painful af . Hideous pip .

Yes sir, you'll definitely enjoy pre-workout. Odin knows what he's doing. You'll get strength and some pretty clean fullness from it.

 

[goodfella]

Was the shot painful ?

I'm pretty used to pinning T400 and few other higher dosed oils, so I might handle pip a bit easier than others. For it being in guaiacol oil, it's definitely not bad. First shot might notice a little bite if your body isn't use to guaiacol. I've used some tne in the past that killed with burning. Most with his I feel you'll get a little pip for maybe one day, but it shouldn't hinder your work outs.

I hit my pecs back to back saturday/sunday nights with slin pin and could still move around and stretch everything no problem. It'd shouldn't be like what you got from PSL.

 

[Lord]

Yes sir, you'll definitely enjoy pre-workout. Odin knows what he's doing. You'll get strength and some pretty clean fullness from

Yes it seems @Odin is a master brewer of crude compounds ! I say that because I read that even his dhb holds great and it’s smooth .
Definitely eager to try it !

 

[Lord]

I'm pretty used to pinning T400 and few other higher dosed oils, so I might handle pip a bit easier than others. For it being in guaiacol oil, it's definitely not bad. First shot might notice a little bite if your body isn't use to guaiacol. I've used some tne in the past that killed with burning. Most with his I feel you'll get a little pip for maybe one day, but it shouldn't hinder your work outs.

I hit my pecs back to back saturday/sunday nights with slin pin and could still move around and stretch everything no problem. It'd shouldn't be like what you got from PSL.

Yea I tried tren base and winstrol inject both with a lot of guaicol and sheeezzz the shots hurt and burn !

 

[Lord]

@dick_starbuck , @goodfella

Listening to Todd he basically said take steroids without gh as a bodybuilder is pointless! Do u all agree or do you think I should run the oils until I am able to add the gh and would still make gains just off the oils until then ?